And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth.
Such Bitterness of Spirit
Published on February 11, 2005 By preacherman In Religion
Religious- of or relating to religious beliefs or observances; the service or worship of God; a commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance; a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs and practices. Webster Dictionary....

I have been a member of joeuser for approximately 6 months. I have noticed, and am somewhat disappointed that there is such a bitter spirit that resides in some of the posted opinions. Is it me or does this seem a little strange that there is such venom on a religious blog site? Should there not be a Spirit of Love?

A good example of what I am talking about can be found on a post by Texas Wahine "Stepping Away From God" check out comment #42 by Myrrander. I fully understand that Myrrander has every right to blog on any site opened for "everyones viewing", but does it seem strange that this spirit is prowling a religious blog?

I must admit, I think it is a good idea for someone like this to brouse as they may stumble across the Truth that will set them free. I just think it odd that such a bitter spirit would manifest itself on a religious site. Am I out in left field or do others agree?

God Bless
preacherman

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on Feb 11, 2005

Dude, this isn't a religious blog site.  This isn't 'Christian User', it's JoeUser,  and the article you mentioned was about Tex's decison to move away from God, not towards him/her/it.  Bad choice. 

Also, since when does 'religion' automatically mean christianity?  Y'all don't corner the market on faith, you know.  There are a lot of us who are non-christians but who are 'religious'.

on Feb 11, 2005
Damn right, dharmagrl. Religious doesn't equal christian or catholic (they're different, one is england and the other is vatican)
and preacherman, you're out of the field. Feels like playing? Come on in! But a word of warning : It's a brutal game!
on Feb 11, 2005
I'd defend him and say maybe he only meant the religion section of the forum, but, well, I still agree with Dharma.

-A.
on Feb 12, 2005
Is it me or does this seem a little strange that there is such venom on a religious blog site?


It's more common than you think. I've spent much of my life on religious "debate" chat rooms on both MSN and Yahoo!, and most of the non-religious participants were very bitter and hostile toward religion, specifically Christianity (they didn't really have a problem with non-Christian religions). Speaking from my own experience as well as observing others, it's either people who feel that Christians, Christianity, or God has wronged them, or it's people who need a pedestal on which to stand above the rest of society.
on Feb 12, 2005
Despite what you or others may say about him, if Myrrander has a bitter spirit and lacks love, then I'm polka-dotted tree frog.
on Feb 12, 2005
Despite what you or others may say about him, if Myrrander has a bitter spirit and lacks love, then I'm polka-dotted tree frog


Me too. Myrr's really very sweet....
on Feb 12, 2005
What's funny is how many of the posts by non-religious people on religious blog sites (such as aeryck's) don't seek a constructive discussion, but only an attempt to bag on "those delusional religious fundies."
I wonder if non-Christians would mind if I started posting inflammatory remarks on their blogs that did nothing but belittle their beliefs. Well, non-Christians? Would you?
on Feb 12, 2005
What's funny is how many of the posts by non-religious people


I think that you ought to re-phrase that to read' non-christian' instead of 'non-religious'. I'm not christian, but I consider myself to be religious.

As for belittling people's beliefs....I haven't done that here, and should anyone want to come to my blog belittle me...well, I'd encourage them to go ahead and do so.
on Feb 12, 2005
I think that you ought to re-phrase that to read' non-christian' instead of 'non-religious'. I'm not christian, but I consider myself to be religious.


In this case though, I did mean the non-religious, and not non-Christians in general.
on Feb 12, 2005
most of the non-religious participants were very bitter and hostile toward religion, specifically Christianity (they didn't really have a problem with non-Christian religions)


Thanks for the comments juxtaposition. That was my exact point. Even when when the Christian perspective is posed there appearas to be a very intolerant spirit. It is really strange that this is generally the accusation made angainst the Christian Church today- "they are intolerant".

preacherman
on Feb 12, 2005

I tend to agree with preacherman. I have no problem with people debating religion in the religion section, but some people just go there to be assholes. Myrrander just wanted to get a couple of jabs in, not discuss the topic.

I think everyone was supportive of T.W., and then combatmedic came in and started whining about religion being for the "weak minded". Feel free to look back and see if that kind of insult was provoked.

Myrrander CAN be a decent guy, but to me he is often more concerned with entering a conversation just to jab at one of the participants with no apparent interest in the discussion. There's no doubting he can be insightful, I have a perma-link to him on my blog.

I think what preacherman is talking about is the incessent need to chime in and say disrespectful things to religious people just because you can get away with it online.

Walking into a conversation about someone's beliefs and calling them "weak minded" is pretty crass, though Texas Wahine seemed to think it was constructive. It's her blog, though, I don't have to visit.

P.S.

"Religious doesn't equal christian or catholic (they're different, one is england and the other is vatican)"


Before you start telling Preacherman he is out of his element, you should at least be there yourself. Catholicism is Christianity, just as much as any other number of flavors.

on Feb 12, 2005
some people just go there to be assholes.




Now that I can agree with. Some people use the topic as an excuse to look down on those who have faith - the 'weak minded' comment was a good example of that.
on Feb 12, 2005
I'm so sad that people are so confused about "religion."

*sigh*

Satan loves it when people argue about such a simple thing. He thrives on watching us chase our own tails, when all we wanted was that drink of water that's right in front of us.
on Feb 12, 2005
Thanks for everyones participation and comments!

Satan loves it when people argue about such a simple thing.


AngelaMarie88 is correct- satan loves to sow discord and deception. If there is the posibility that something that is said is true, satan would love nothing more than to present it as a lie. There is a lot of effort to twist and turn the truth of the scriptures. They teach satan is the father of them (lies).

think what preacherman is talking about is the incessent need to chime in and say disrespectful things to religious people just because you can get away with it online.


The point was well taken BakerStreet- I would not attack the views of other faiths or other moral beliefs. If the scriptures are not sufficient to change one's heart and mind... I sure would never be able to do it. My only purpose is to expound the scriptures- Thanks for your support.

God Bless
preacherman
on Feb 14, 2005
I am sure if people posted how crazy or irrational it is to believe buddhism, islam, karma (same as buddhism?), the force, etc. is it would receive as much, if not more criticism. Then if someone complained about it the would be "justified".

Point is, it is not a Christian, Budda, etc. site. Comments are posted in the religion area of this site which would lead you to believe it should attract those with similiar views. Maybe we should go to the entertainment area and talk about how anyone who spends their time tracking such things are wasting their life.
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